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    E10 fuel by 2020?

    I read about this in Classic Car Weekly (10th October) but didn't mention it here as this sort of item usually gets picked up quite quickly. It seems that the government may want to press ahead with the introduction of E10 fuel in all forecourts by 2020. This is a fuel which is 10% ethanol. This will damage classic fuel systems, rotting hoses and carburettor float bowls.
    The consultation ended on 16th September. The FBHVC have called for an E5 fuel to be included to protect older cars but the octane rating is still being disputed. Where it stands thus far, I am unsure but I'm certain that's there are those on here who keep up with this sort of news, hence my surprise at it not being mentioned before.

    I look forward to replies from better educated souls to help us all out here. Should we be worried? Is this another of those "little steps" deliberately engineered to slowly but surely squeeze classic cars off the public highways? Those who know me, know my view.
    Last edited by mick the hat; 18-10-2018, 01:07 AM.
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    I actually have an article which I was going to use in the Jan/Feb issue of Round Up from the FBHVC. Just a reminder MOCGB is now a club member of FBHVC.
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      #3
      This article suggests E.5 will be available at major retailers by that time;

      https://www.express.co.uk/life-style...ble-check-fuel

      "Owners of cars that arenít compatible should be fine at the pumps as larger retailers that sell three million litres of fuel or more must offer E10 and E5."
      Stuart
      2014 GT/CS

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        #4
        Bad news indeed.
        Horrendous for fuel systems, tanks and carbs especially

        Less MPG as well

        Usually you purchase premium as they can't get the octane level when they add that crap so it doesn't have it in it
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          #5
          If E85 comes out over here I'll be loving life! Bring it on
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            =)) :gears
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              #7
              When I rebuilt my 70 over the last couple of years I looked into this when doing the fuel system.

              I used braided PTFE pipe with alloy fittings throughout, from the fuel tank to the carb, including a little filter, no rubber parts at all.

              I want to ditch the fuel tank at some point in the near future and fit a fuel cell, which will be E85 compatable, which only leaves the carb. It didn't cost the earth to do
              and looks so cool, much better than rubber pipe and little jubilee clips. Got all my stuff from viperpeformance.co.uk , great people to deal with.

              checkout this article from summitracing too

              https://www.onallcylinders.com/2016/...atBI6eYVAeTSqU
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                #8
                I installed a fuel cell in a 68 coupe a fair few years ago. It was a main brand. I can't remember it now.

                Few things of note.

                At that time, I don't know about now. They smell, For some reason they do exude a smell of the fuel within. I can't remember why but the cell did warn you against this with a sticker

                They also "expire" the bladder inside has an expiry date. The bladder was VERY expensive.

                Just mentioning what was evident back then, We are talking over 20 years ago.

                Cheers. Peter
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                  #9
                  Bladder type cells expire due to the bladder being glued together and made from an impregnated canvas style material. Not actually sure what the material is but have looked at it when I went for an interview at Aerotech laboratories who make all the race fuel cells

                  Some very interesting engineering goes into fuel cells even though they're pretty small items

                  Far better off with a baffled trap door style cell made from ally which is what my two will be fitted with
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