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    Another 1970 Fastback Resto (mod) - Eventually!

    Well, I suppose having now got a Mustang, (see here: http://www.mocgb.net/forums/showthre...tback-Project/ ) I'd better start a build thread - although not much'll happen until my bank balance recovers...

    So, on to the car...

    A 1970, base model, 302ci auto fastback Mustang, it was imported to the UK about a month back by the guy I bought it from, who got it from an estate sale in Marshall, Texas. The last US owner (Edward Allen) had it since 1995 (Previous Owner to him was someone called Danny Manning). Considering the state of the underside it'd spent some time in a field before then. First thing I did after I paid for it was source a Marti Report - here:

    Marti Report by Michael Macdonald, on Flickr

    Despite Calypso Coral actually being the colour it is painted now, it's had a (really poor) respray at some point and a fair bit of bodywork (similarly poor). What was interesting is that it was an original AC and PAS car - which are both long gone. Currently it's been converted to a bit of a street/strip car, with Center-Line Alloys, a B&M Shifter, Pro-Light Tach, 429 Shelby hood scoop (replica), Traction bars and what looks like a Gearbox oil cooler (may keep that). The engine also sounds rather fruity, so there's a pretty lumpy cam in there, plus the exhaust stops about mid-way (LOUD!!).

    It's arrival (with somewhat dubious footage, but my Wife was also making sure I didn't hit anyone!) is here:

    https://youtu.be/3ykSZS1QCuY (what code to embed You Tube on this forum?? thought [YT] [/YT] was right?)

    Photos here:

    IMG_1114 by Michael Macdonald, on Flickr
    IMG_1112 by Michael Macdonald, on Flickr
    IMG_1111 by Michael Macdonald, on Flickr
    IMG_1110 by Michael Macdonald, on Flickr
    IMG_1108 by Michael Macdonald, on Flickr
    IMG_1107 by Michael Macdonald, on Flickr
    IMG_1113 by Michael Macdonald, on Flickr
    IMG_1115 by Michael Macdonald, on Flickr

    I also had to spend the first few hours after arrival clearing the Wasp nest that had been constructed underneath:

    IMG_1098 by Michael Macdonald, on Flickr

    So far I know it's got a very rusty cowl (unsurprising), pin-holed tail light panel, lap-welded lower quarter-panel replacements, new floor-pans (but also poorly installed) and possibly new fenders and doors. The frame rails and Torque boxes and other body panels seem ok, but overall I'm not too concerned, as my plan was always to fully gut it, then build it back up with an eye to doing a Resto-mod. Originality is therefore not a critical concern and this car has already lost much of its anyway, so it's not like i'm doing it to a Mach 1 or something that will lose a lot of value.

    Saying that I want to keep the car looking as original as possible (inside and Out) or modified in a way that looks original in appearance.

    The Plan! (doesn't really deserve capital letters):

    Initially, as said, progress will be slow, but the outline will be to go as follows:

    - Initial Inspection/Immediate work - Over the next few months I'll just be getting to know the car and identifying what work is needed. May get it registered and on the road, but suspect it'll be too much work just now - will see!
    - Strip-down - catalogue and inspect - look to identify what bodywork needs doing - expect a LOT of questions from me of the 'what is', 'where should', 'How can' and 'Help!' variety!
    - Bodywork - will have to out-source this - as you can see, I have a drive, and that's it! At the same time I will get a lot of reinforcement done to shock towers and structure, plus preparing for future mods wherever possible.
    - Renovate - while the car's away for bodywork, I plan to restore/renovate all the bits I've stripped off, ready for re-assembly, plus source the bits i'm missing.
    - Paint - out-sourced too - luckily there's a very good painter just a few miles away from me. Intended colour is new Mustang Magnetic (love it)
    - Re-assemble - back to a largely stock form just now, using the bits i've already renovated.
    - Resto-Mod - once the car is on the road and running, I will start to gradually work through it and upgrade over time - focusing on suspension, powertrain and brakes.

    The main thing is to get it back on the road and driving as soon as possible once Body and Paint are done. I don't want this thing up on bricks on my drive for years - obviously time will tell, and I will be learning as I go, so any advice/guidance is welcome (especially if you see me doing something daft!!).
    Last edited by Mike_Mac; 07-07-2017, 03:23 PM.
    1970 302 Fastback - Back on the road sometime this century... https://www.mocgb.net/forums/showthr...od)-Eventually!

    #2
    Nice to see some better pictures of the car looks in better shape . Is that an old wasp nest remnant on the rear axle ?
    Seems to be the perfect blank canvas for you to do all the mods you want over time. Look forward to updates.
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    1965 Mustang GT 350 Race Car
    Previously 1969 Mach 1 DLP 3J
    and PRO 889L

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      #3
      Mike,

      Excellent, I look forward to reading your thread.

      I too had wasp nests in my Mach 1 (ex Georgia car); no wasps, but the nests were like concrete!

      Cheers
      Chris
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        #4
        Yeah, wasps build tough! An hour of jet washing soon shifted them though...
        1970 302 Fastback - Back on the road sometime this century... https://www.mocgb.net/forums/showthr...od)-Eventually!

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          #5
          First Update - Part 1!

          Other than a lot of time getting my blast cabinet sorted and ready (and starting to strip and renovate the air cleaner)...

          Air Cleaner - Before by Michael Macdonald, on Flickr

          Air Cleander lid - blasted by Michael Macdonald, on Flickr

          Snorkel 50-50 by Michael Macdonald, on Flickr

          ... I've now managed to capitalise on the breaks in the weather on Saturday to get started on the initial strip/assessment.

          First, I did a bit of digging in the engine bay and confirmed my suspicion that the engine isn't very standard! There's a 4BBl Holley Carb on there (original was a 2BBl), an Edelbrock Performer Intake Manifold (not sure which one) and what look suspiciously like short tube exhaust headers!:

          Holley Carb-3 by Michael Macdonald, on Flickr
          Holley Carb-1 by Michael Macdonald, on Flickr
          Holley Carb-3 by Michael Macdonald, on Flickr
          Holley Carb-2 by Michael Macdonald, on Flickr

          (can anyone provide a bit more on what specifically this Carb and Intake might be?

          On less bright news, I found that the screenwash bottle had been converted into a coolant overflow tank and what was in there was pretty foul:

          Screenwash used as coolant overflow by Michael Macdonald, on Flickr

          While I want to install an overflow tank (good idea mechanically) I also want my screen-wash back and it looks like i'll need to re-plumb the whole system as it seems to have 'gone'! I'll need to investigate further, but that's a job for another day...

          Then, I started looking into the wiring, in particular the lighting, as I want to assess whether I can do the UK conversion easily. Current plan is convert the headlights to UK halogens, which I will need to install a separate power feed tot he lights, switched by a relay setup (otherwise the switch will burn out). sidelights/Front indicators will use the existing sidelights under the bumper with a dual filament LED bulb (very simple - no hacking required). At the rear, although I could use the reversing lights as indicators I would rather keep them, so am looking at some degree of LED conversion. That'll enable me to keep the all red tail lights, but still have one of them flash amber as required - more to follow on that...

          At the same time, I wanted to strip out as much of the crap added by the Previous Owner (PO from now on), starting with the tach!

          Results here:

          https://youtu.be/MTlGhy_YGaU

          I was getting flash-backs to my Supra - it's PO had a similar approach to wiring! :) After a lot of digging and testing of bulbs I am now pretty sure that it's just knackered bulbs, although the whole loom is very shonky and will be high on the list to replace. The engine bay in particular will need a lot more digging in the future - complicated by me having to learn as I go.

          At the same time I confirmed the reason why I couldn't find the front sidelights... looks like when the PO turned this poor car into a drag-slag, he really didn't care about keeping street-legal - hence the sidelights were just left in when it was re-sprayed:

          Sidelight painted by Michael Macdonald, on Flickr

          Nice!!
          Last edited by Mike_Mac; 07-07-2017, 03:30 PM.
          1970 302 Fastback - Back on the road sometime this century... https://www.mocgb.net/forums/showthr...od)-Eventually!

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            #6
            First Update - Part 2!

            When I get them out and had a look inside, I quickly just decided to replace, not refurb:

            Sidelight by Michael Macdonald, on Flickr

            The reversing lights weren't much better, and had also suffered from the spray gun, so they'll just be replaced too - the lenses were knackered anyway, plus the looms hard-wired into the assemblies were hard and brittle, so there really wasn't any point repairing.

            Then I got to the tail lights, which came out after I loosened the bumper a bit (exposing a nice bit of tail light panel rust - but I knew about that!):

            Tail light by Michael Macdonald, on Flickr
            Tail light Body by Michael Macdonald, on Flickr

            These I will refurb, but I'll need new seals and lenses first - more items on the list, but the housings will clean up OK I'm sure.

            As I was good for time (this thing is SO easy to work on!!) I got stuck into a few other things (less photos - sorry!). First I removed the rear spoiler (not a fan) and the hood pins (same)!

            Then I set about removing and cleaning out the fuel tank and the trunk (half of Texas in there - foul!). Before I removed it I had a look in with my endoscope:

            https://youtu.be/SC8rYo9_7PM

            Very empty! Looks like I was lucky to get it onto the drive before it would have conked out. Again it didn't take long to get it out (discovering that the fuel pump is also an aftermarket Holley (I believe)) to reveal the trunk in all its muddy glory:

            Truink-Before-2 by Michael Macdonald, on Flickr
            Trunk-Before-1 by Michael Macdonald, on Flickr

            I then got stuck in with a jet-wash (being careful with direction and tucking the loom well out the way) and discovered all sorts of crud - especially between the rear quarter and the trunk drop-off:

            IMG_1152 by Michael Macdonald, on Flickr

            Including the original Dealer's fender(?) emblem!! Don't plan to re-install it, but will probably clean it up and mount it - nice bit of original history! The trunk seems in OK shape - there's rust holes in the panel in front of the trunk and the NS wheel-well base, but so far it doesn't look too bad. Time will tell...

            That about wrapped it up for Sat, but I did finish with a feeling that progress was being made - always easy when you're stripping, as opposed to re-installing stuff!! :D I need to replace more than I thought, but so far there's been no surprises.


            ETA - https://www.holley.com/products/fuel.../parts/0-1850S

            Identified the carb from the product number - a 600cfm Holley - not bad at all!! Not sure where the manual choke has been sent to though! Another thing to dig into.
            Last edited by Mike_Mac; 07-07-2017, 03:33 PM. Reason: Found the Carb!
            1970 302 Fastback - Back on the road sometime this century... https://www.mocgb.net/forums/showthr...od)-Eventually!

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              #7
              I wonder if this is the same company..https://www.google.co.uk/search?clie...10&*&gfe_rd=cr

              Phil


              Classic American Restoration Services
              01992 890969..............07590 431511
              www.totalmustang.co.uk ... www.philsworkshop.co.uk
              https://www.facebook.com/classicamer...rationservices

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                #8
                Originally posted by phil k View Post
                I wonder if this is the same company..https://www.google.co.uk/search?clie...10&*&gfe_rd=cr

                Phil
                Got to be - same address as the Marti Report.
                1970 302 Fastback - Back on the road sometime this century... https://www.mocgb.net/forums/showthr...od)-Eventually!

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                  #9
                  Ok – time for another update!

                  Plans are still a bit fluid, as I am waiting for someone I know to give me an idea of how easy it will be to get it to MOT pass level. If that proves too much work, I’ll just be cracking on with a full strip-down as fast as possible to get it in for body and paint.

                  Therefore this last weekend I started on background jobs, like finishing the prep of the air cleaner – didn’t want it going rusty again. Therefore my improvised spray booth came into play:

                  Spray booth by Michael Macdonald, on Flickr

                  Primed by Michael Macdonald, on Flickr

                  First coat is therefore on and during this week I’m rubbing it down, laying a second coat and will hopefully have top coat applied by the weekend.

                  While I was waiting for the first coat to dry, I started investigating the bodywork (biggest thing that will nix the MOT plans). This quickly grew arms and legs and I’ve basically stripped all but the dash and steering wheel.

                  While I was stripping it became obvious that the other half of Texas that wasn’t on the underside was in the interior:

                  OSR-Base-2 by Michael Macdonald, on Flickr

                  What then followed was some good news/bad news:

                  Good News – the old seam sealer was very flaky, but underneath is really good, clean metal:

                  OS Seam Seal Removal-2 by Michael Macdonald, on Flickr

                  Bad News – when I started removing the factory underlay from the floorpans:

                  Floorpan Matting-1 by Michael Macdonald, on Flickr

                  I found a nicely rusty rear driver’s pan:

                  NS Floorpan-1 by Michael Macdonald, on Flickr

                  (Note the screwdriver sticking through the floor…)

                  TBH, though, it’s really localised on the pan, and the seatbelt mount point and seat mount section is still all good, so I’m not too worried – should be a simple enough fix. What’s really good is that all the rest of the sheet metal I exposed seemed ‘OK’. Might be famous last words, but I’ll see!

                  Just as good, under the, original, headliner:

                  Headliner-1 by Michael Macdonald, on Flickr

                  (eew!)

                  Was also a pretty solid roof panel – looks like it’s just the drip rails that have started to go, which is a relief!

                  I then went mental cleaning everything and finishing off labelling and bagging all the bits, so didn’t get a finished shot – it looks a lot cleaner now and should allow a good inspection of the body this coming weekend…
                  Last edited by Mike_Mac; 07-07-2017, 03:45 PM.
                  1970 302 Fastback - Back on the road sometime this century... https://www.mocgb.net/forums/showthr...od)-Eventually!

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                    #10
                    I think i have some decent rear lenses somewhere if you want me to dig them out?

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by RacingStang View Post
                      I think i have some decent rear lenses somewhere if you want me to dig them out?
                      Yes - interested! Could you send me some pics?
                      1970 302 Fastback - Back on the road sometime this century... https://www.mocgb.net/forums/showthr...od)-Eventually!

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                        #12
                        I can't recommend this enough, TAKE A MILLION PHOTOS from every angle imaginable. Take too many photos, Take so many photos of things you are about to take apart that you run out of memory card and have to buy a bigger one. Trust me, Even the most simple and obvious assemblies can befuddle you when, months later, you are trying to re-assemble.

                        Thanks for posting your progress up. These are my favourite threads.

                        Cheers. Petre
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                          #13
                          Oh yeah - believe me - you're just getting the edited highlights... and when I get the dash I'll be going mental doing that. :D
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by pmustang View Post
                            Thanks for posting your progress up. These are my favourite threads. Cheers. Petre
                            +1 to that !
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                            You can never have enough black under the hood.

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                              #15
                              Another here, love reading the restos, lots of photos.

                              Cheers

                              David

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