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    Spongy Brakes S197

    Hi Guys,

    Anyone had trouble with spongy brakes on their S197? Changed the fluid and with a two man system went round the car 5 times bleeding all the brakes until no air bubbles. However, when engine is running the brakes still feel spongy.
    Has anyone got any ideas please, or is there a known issue?

    Ta muchly.
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    #2
    Had factory brakes later swapped out for Baers. No issues with either bar a warped rotor on factory set.
    Would obviously recommend Mike at Modurstang to sort you though internet says ABM Automotive DT3 5PY have a soft spot for American cars and are nearer. Hope you are sorted soon.

    PS similar issue - may help

    https://www.s197forum.com/threads/so...en-off.118871/

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      #3
      Many thanks, will look into Mike or ABM as a first call.
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        #4
        Were they ok before you bled them or is that why you were bleeding them?
        If they were ok before then I would bleed them again and see what happens.
        You shouldn't have had any bubbles in the fluid anyway unless you had done some work on the system.

        1966 Coupe: 1995-
        1966 Land Rover Series 2a: 2012-
        2005 Mustang GT 2014-
        2007 California Special Replica: 2010-2014

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          #5
          Originally posted by Anaconda View Post
          Were they ok before you bled them or is that why you were bleeding them?
          If they were ok before then I would bleed them again and see what happens.
          You shouldn't have had any bubbles in the fluid anyway unless you had done some work on the system.
          They were spongy before. The fluid was very dark, and now has been replaced. Have taken her out this afternoon and will bleed again over weekend. If no luck I will try ABM which is 3 miles away from me that I never had a clue about.
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            #6
            Should change it every couple of years, did mine the other week.
            let us know how you get on, you have a big brake kit on your car if I remember correctly?

            1966 Coupe: 1995-
            1966 Land Rover Series 2a: 2012-
            2005 Mustang GT 2014-
            2007 California Special Replica: 2010-2014

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              #7
              Originally posted by Anaconda View Post
              Should change it every couple of years, did mine the other week.
              let us know how you get on, you have a big brake kit on your car if I remember correctly?
              Yes Dave, I have a Roush up grade. Fluid doesn't look like it was changed for years to be honest. Reservoir was very dark in colour, now of course nice and light.
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                #8
                Does it have 2 bleed nipples on each front caliper, if so did you bleed both of them ?

                1966 Coupe: 1995-
                1966 Land Rover Series 2a: 2012-
                2005 Mustang GT 2014-
                2007 California Special Replica: 2010-2014

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                  #9
                  Yeah Indeed it has. I did actually think I may have missed the rear valves, but I did do them thanks Dave.
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                    #10
                    Clamp the flexi pipes off (vise grips will do but don't damage them)
                    Press the brake pedal, if it's bad then suspect the mastercylinder.
                    If you have a good pedal get someone to remove them in turn while you keep pressing.
                    That should show you the culprit.
                    You did check the pads and caliper slides where all free?

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by richard View Post
                      Clamp the flexi pipes off (vise grips will do but don't damage them)
                      Press the brake pedal, if it's bad then suspect the mastercylinder.
                      If you have a good pedal get someone to remove them in turn while you keep pressing.
                      That should show you the culprit.
                      You did check the pads and caliper slides where all free?
                      This is a good idea. Wish I had thought of it. Maybe put something between the grips and the brake lines just to be safe.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by richard View Post
                        Clamp the flexi pipes off (vise grips will do but don't damage them)
                        Press the brake pedal, if it's bad then suspect the mastercylinder.
                        If you have a good pedal get someone to remove them in turn while you keep pressing.
                        That should show you the culprit.
                        You did check the pads and caliper slides where all free?
                        I use this method when trying to set up the brakes on the Series Land rover, that way I can adjust one axle (or even individual brake) at a time. H&S dictates you should not drive on the road with your brakes clamped off as it can have very interesting results!!

                        1966 Coupe: 1995-
                        1966 Land Rover Series 2a: 2012-
                        2005 Mustang GT 2014-
                        2007 California Special Replica: 2010-2014

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                          #13
                          Thanks guys, will give it ago before it's MOT next week.
                          Great bit of info.
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                            #14
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                            Be worth investing in some brake hose clamps plent of differant types out there,
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by saleen 192 View Post
                              I have all of them, the last ones are the most useful, the first ones I use for clamping off coolant hoses.

                              1966 Coupe: 1995-
                              1966 Land Rover Series 2a: 2012-
                              2005 Mustang GT 2014-
                              2007 California Special Replica: 2010-2014

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